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		<title>Developing vs. Developed Nations &#8212; A Climate Negotiations Dilemma</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 13:19:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris Tobias</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The upcoming climate negotiations in Copenhagen have highlighted an interesting dilemma.  Nations worldwide are trying to shirk their responsibilities around emissions and their economies. So called “developed” nations like the U.S., U.K., and Australia are having a difficult political time getting industries to swallow the fact that big changes need to happen.  Industry needs to [...]<br /><div><img src="http://blog.cleantechies.com/wp-content/plugins/gd-star-rating/gfx.php?value=0.0" /></div><div>Rating: 0.0/<strong>5</strong> (0 votes cast)</div><br />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='dd_post_share dd_post_share_right'><div class='dd_buttons'><div class='dd_button_v'><div class='dd-linkedin-ajax-load dd-linkedin-7994'></div><script type='in/share' data-url='http://blog.cleantechies.com/2009/11/28/developing-vs-developed-nations-climate-negotations-dilemma/' data-counter='right'></script></div><div class='dd_button_v'><div class='dd-twitter-ajax-load dd-twitter-7994'></div><a href="http://twitter.com/share" class="twitter-share-button" data-url="http://blog.cleantechies.com/2009/11/28/developing-vs-developed-nations-climate-negotations-dilemma/" data-count="horizontal" data-text="Developing vs. Developed Nations -- A Climate Negotiations Dilemma" data-via="Cleantechies" ></a></div><div class='dd_button_v'><iframe src='http://www.facebook.com/plugins/like.php?href=http%3A%2F%2Fblog.cleantechies.com%2F2009%2F11%2F28%2Fdeveloping-vs-developed-nations-climate-negotations-dilemma%2F&amp;locale=en_US&amp;layout=button_count&amp;action=like&amp;width=92&amp;height=20&amp;colorscheme=light' scrolling='no' frameborder='0' style='border:none; overflow:hidden; width:92px; height:20px;' allowTransparency='true'></iframe></div></div></div><p>The upcoming climate negotiations  in Copenhagen have highlighted an interesting dilemma.  Nations  worldwide are trying to shirk their responsibilities around emissions  and their economies.</p>
<p><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-7998" title="vastukarta industry vastu shastra" src="http://blog.cleantechies.com/files/2009/11/vastukarta_industry_vastu_shastra-199x300.jpg" alt="vastukarta industry vastu shastra" width="199" height="300" /> So called “developed” nations  like the U.S., U.K., and Australia are having a difficult political  time getting industries to swallow the fact that big changes need to  happen.  Industry needs to clean up its act.  Of course, then  the political dance begins:</p>
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<li><strong>“But what about    <em>xyz</em> country?  Are they going to do it too?”</strong> Yes, yes, always point the finger somewhere else.  Someone else    should be the leader, start things off, too risky for us.</li>
<li><strong>“Developing    countries should do their bit!”</strong> Undoubtedly the case, but    perhaps those who have been polluting in droves since the start of the    industrial revolution should take the first step.</li>
<li><strong>“But it will    RUIN industry!  It will be a calamity!  Jobs destroyed!     Lives ruined!  We simply cannot afford to change!” </strong> Unfortunately, the same logic was used at one point to justify slavery,    and many other sad practices.  It is a classic technique used to    frighten and scare people away from the real issue at hand.  In    this case, the cost of climate change will pale all other costs by comparison.     Can we really take that risk?</li>
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<p>Of course for “developing”  nations like India and China, the “Hey, it’s OUR turn guys!” excuse  gets some pretty significant tread.  And it is pretty hard to object  to trying to raise the living standard of people, especially those living  in abject poverty.  However, by <em>what means</em> they are raised  from poverty… <em>that</em> deserves some scrutiny.</p>
<p><a><img style="margin: 6px; float: left;" src="http://www.celsias.com/media/uploads/admin/india3-medium.jpg" border="0" alt="india 3 medium" width="180" height="244" /></a> What developing nations have  in their favor is the presence of technologies, techniques, and abilities  that simply did not exist at the beginning of the industrial revolution.   There are many ways to leapfrog past the dirty, polluting industries  we need to avoid, and still give people a chance at a better life.   Development this time need not follow the same dirty learning curve.   With some investment and ingenuity, it shouldn’t have to.</p>
<p>A case in point: rather than  laying scores of telephone lines, countries including India have improved  communication by having people go directly to mobile phones.  In  essence, that’s the logic we’re after.</p>
<p>So how do you move both developing  and developed countries forward and end this stalemate?</p>
<p>Perhaps give them something  to aspire to.  Rather than a two tier, there vs. here approach,  why not a third choice?  Why not an “evolved” nation status,  a better way?</p>
<p>Criteria could be set around  all manner of what it means to be an advanced society: economic, environmental,  social, and cultural traits would be looked at holistically.  These  criteria might include points for:</p>
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<li>Investment in renewable    energy infrastructure (a country like Scotland would win points)</li>
<li>Advanced public    healthcare and preventative care (Sweden would do well)</li>
<li>Low political corruption    (Singapore has done a great job)</li>
<li>Progress with organic,    low-impact agriculture (Cuba is a fantastic case study)</li>
<li>Attention to general    public well-being and progress (Such as in the case of Bhutan’s “Gross    National Happiness”)</li>
<li>Strong banking and    financial regulation (New Zealand would do well)</li>
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<p>… and the list could go on  and on.  The point is that each country would inherently have some  points in their favor, and with a chart set on advancement, could have  a solid direction to move in.  An “evolved” nation would have  reached a minimum threshold of criteria, and a timeline for implementing  the rest.  It would be an aspiration to genuine progress and a  departure from old mindsets.</p>
<p><a><img style="margin: 6px; float: left;" src="http://www.celsias.com/media/uploads/admin/UN-Climate-Change-Summit_1.jpg" border="0" alt="un climate change" width="195" height="130" /></a> The catch of course would be  to make sure that these are robust, and that nations stay on track.   It would likely take some external review and oversight by a third party  to determine genuine progress.</p>
<p>But of course, if you could  say on a worldwide stage that your nation had “evolved” past the  many historic problems facing other countries, there would be some strong  political interest in supporting these initiatives.  Humans simply  like being competitive.</p>
<p>So rather than frame the climate  negotiations in the developing/developed nations stalemate, perhaps  the time has arrived for a third, more enlightened option—one that  actually offers the opportunity for progress, and something for people  to aspire to.</p>
<p><em>Article appearing courtesy of <a title="Celsias" href="http://www.celsias.com" target="_blank">Celsias</a></em></p>
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